Spoken By Supreme Master Ching Hai,
Youngdong Center, Korea
May 6, 1998 (Originally In English)
: I had an experience a couple of weeks ago when I was meditating. I fell
forward and I kind of surrendered to that great power. I saw myself coming
out of my body, but this way, down, down this way. I just wonder if that
kind of leaving from the body takes me to the lower realm if I go down
instead of coming up?
: It's just your feeling; there's no down, no up in that dimension. But
did you feel good afterwards?
: Yeah. But at that time, it's quite frightening. Fast speed and it was
like going through a tunnel.
: You went through the transmigration tunnel. You were dead for that moment.
That's why. You came back to life. That's what a real resurrection is.
It's good. No problem. Don't worry about it.
Spoken By Supreme Master Ching Hai,Los Angeles, CA, U.S.A.December 14, 1997 (Originally In English)
: When the masters who are born as masters come to this planet, why do
they need initiation or why do they need a master?
: They don't need one, really. But do you remember what Jesus said? "Let
the law be done." He was baptized by John the Baptist, and people
also asked him the same question. He said, "Let it be done."
Let the law be fulfilled -- the law of the physical universe. Suppose I
come to the United States and I'm a British citizen, I have to obey the
laws of this country even though they are a little different from England's.
I have to drive on the right side, and not on the left side like England,
or I will get into trouble, just to be like everyone.
nd why not? It's no big deal to have a guru. Besides, if you have a guru,
then everyone else also follows. If you have your master, they feel it's
normal that way. If everything is too miraculous, it scares people also.
Suppose I just drop down from heaven and say, "Here I am, the Supreme
Master, blah, blah, blah..." I think people would not like it that
much. They would think it was hypnotism; they'd think it was cheating,
or the workings of the devil. You really can't. It's already bad enough
that any master should take the physical form, any form of the physical
body, because many people cling to that form. They think, "Oh, this
is the form of the master, any other form is no good."
od cannot always appear right here in front of us in one form or another.
Suppose Hes were in the form of Jesus; all the Buddhists would say, "No,
no, not for me!" And suppose Hes appeared in the form of the Buddha,
like many people would like to see, then the Catholics would say, "No,
no, that's heretical," and things like that. It's very difficult.
So we have to find the Truth inside; it doesn't matter whether the master
has a guru or no guru. He comes here; he has to eat; he has to be born,
and physically he has to grow up, has to study, and everything else is
the same. So, it's the same with initiation.
lso it's good to be humble, to sit at the feet of someone, to learn to
be a disciple first. It's no problem with the master. The master can be
anything, so why not a disciple? Besides, another thing I want to tell
you is that any master who comes to this world physically, all the memory,
all the glory, and all the power, are wiped away from him after the age
of maybe four or something. Then he doesn't remember anything. Like everyone
else, he has to learn anew. He has to get the key again, the key from a
living master, who hands over the key to him.
: Some masters, when they get initiated, they get self-realization very
fast, in six months to one year, and some require years, all together twenty
years, twenty-five years, and then they experience self-realization, even
though they might be born masters. Why such a long time?
: Oh, no problem. It's just their own wish to do that, just to show many
different people that, okay, you don't have to be fast. Even me, I took
twenty-five years, so don't worry about your own slow progress. It is just
that the master is trying to show people, encourage people. For example,
suppose I get enlightenment, realization, "great" realization
in six months, and many people like it. A type of people who like that,
quick, come to me and say, "Oh yeah, if She got it in six months,
I can get it in six days!" (Laughter) Some people feel inferior if
they take too long. If they look at some other master, either in the past
or in the present, and say, "Oh, that master took twenty-five years
to become a Buddha, so I'm okay. Even though I don't progress very fast
now, look at that master. He was born as a master, and he still took so
long." So it doesn't matter very much. That's one thing.
nother thing is that there are two kinds of masters. One master is made,
and another master is born. The "born master" is quick. And the
"made master" is like any of us here, who has been wandering
so many centuries and thousands of lifetimes in this world. It's the first
time he comes to realization and he endeavors to become a master. And it
can be his destiny, his predestination. He's destined to be like that.
And the other master is born by destiny, born with the glory of the master
already, with all the power from the past, present, and future to bring
to this world to do the work. So that's fast. There's no difference between
being slow or fast, because we have all been masters in the past anyhow.
It's just that some masters have realized it already long ago, and come
back again as born masters. And some are just newly-made here.
: Some of the perfect masters, strong masters, sometimes never come out
from the caves of the Himalayas. They continue to stay there, and only
a small number of people can get the benefit from this.
: Oh, that's the master's work. Who are we to tell the master what to do?
Each master has his or her own destiny, or own mission to do. To sit in
the Himalayas is just as good as to preach to the people. Some masters
like to go out to share the joy with the people, and some masters just
sit there and benefit others by radiation, by their presence in this world.
It's fine. Some doctors become professors and teach in the university.
Some doctors just work in the hospital. Some doctors retire and don't work.
(Laughter & applause.) We benefit from the master not only in terms
of the physical presence, but there are also good will and light from the
master when he meditates in the Himalayas, or meditates anywhere. But of
course it's more direct for those who have affinity with some certain masters,
coming in contact with the physical master so they can realize it more
quickly. And the other master sometimes sits in the Himalayas and mentally
or spiritually supports the working masters. Everyone has his or her work;
no problem with that.
Spoken By Supreme Master Ching Hai,Youngdong, KoreaMay 6, 1998 Originally In English
: Is it correct to say that You know everything but You only choose to
respond to some thing and another thing You just don't respond to, even
though You know.
: I also don't know. (Master and all laugh) These are very intellectual
issues. You know, the mind is different from the soul. The body is different
from the Master power. The body eats, but the Master power doesn't. The
body sleeps; the Master power stays awake 24 hours. The mind responds,
and the Master power just acts with knowledge; it doesn't react.
he Master power has to be above the body, outside the body and inside the
body, in order to know everything at the same time . And if it's not really
necessary, the Master power does not direct the mind to understand that,
or to do anything. If it's really necessary, then the Master power will
direct the mind to do something, to react to something physically. If not,
the Master power just does it in the abstract sense, outside of the physical
realm. Not that the body can understand. Not that you and I can understand.
Not that the brain can understand.
he Master power works 24 hours nonstop. The brain can get tired, get overloaded,
get exhausted because of too much information, too much stress or too much
thinking. The Master power never does. So what you're referring to right
now, whether I know or not know, refers to my brain. In order to know the
way you think I should know right now, I have to use the brain to know
the way you think. But that's also the brain's domain. Knowing is the Master
power. The mind can be briefed about it, with a little information. It
doesn't have to know.
f that thing is really important, the Master makes the mind react, makes
me react. "Me," in the physical sense that you see. However the
"me" who is the Master power always does something, always knows
everything, but not in the physical realm. In the physical realm, if something
happens, if something is necessary, then the Master power directs the body
and the mind to do it for that particular thing, particular event, only.
Not everything else that the Master does the body should know, or the brain
should understand, because the brain and the body are limited. They'll
burst, explode, become exhausted, be overpowered, cannot take too much.
So, the Master power does things, not always with the body and with the
brain.
ven the physical Master's body and brain can only take so much. Just like
your car, it doesn't matter if you are a president or King of the Arabian
world, you can't drive your car all day, all night, every day, every night.
Even if it's a Rolls Royce, a Volvo, or a Mercedes, it needs a rest sometimes.
It needs gas, it needs a lot of things. But actually, the Master's body
is more than a car, of course. It's different. But it can get exhausted
also, because of the law of the universe, the material law. So that's why
I tell you, just take my teachings, do the meditation, and don't bother
about what the body does or what I'm doing.